So, We’re Voting On Rights Now?

It appears that there are a lot of people out there who think they ought to be able to vote on who’s rights are protected by the U.S. Constitution and who’s aren’t. First there were the people out in California who thought that they could vote to deny same-sex couples the same rights they enjoy as heterosexual couples. Now we’ve got folks from all over the country pressing both the governments of New York, and of the country, to deny Muslims the right to build an Islamic cultural center on private property. And the “talking heads” on TV are having a field day keeping it all stirred up!

Well now, that’s not exactly the impression I had about how rights are supposed to work, but if we’re opening up the floodgates to National Socialism, then I’ve got a few demands of my own I’d like to present. Hell, I’m in need of a good rant anyway!

Let’s deal with the marriage thing first, shall we? Frankly, I don’t understand why anyone in their right mind would choose to be legally bound to to someone else in the first place. That smacks a little too much of slavery to me. But I say that if you’re going to do something stupid, then you might as well do it right! And when I think of the high percentage of marriages that end in disaster, it occurs to me that perhaps getting a license to marry, for anyone, really has been just a little too easy anyway.

Maybe prospective couples, regardless of race, creed, color, or sexual orientation, should have to prove that they meet the necessary income requirements, and possess the necessary psychological and biological compatibility, to make a marriage work before being issued a license. And let’s not forget the continuing assessment required to prevent them from birthing children into a bad parenting situation. All couples should have to stand before a “marriage and parenting review board” on a regular basis!

Next, let’s deal with this whole “freedom of religion” thing. Now in my opinion, and that of any Doctor of Science worth his salt, religious belief, by definition, is a form of insanity. And while it makes no sense to pass laws outlawing insanity – after all, the poor things can’t help themselves – how can anyone argue that we should guarantee them the right to be insane? That just seems plain counter-productive to me. I mean, how are you supposed to treat insane people with all these silly rights in the way?

Once those silly religious liberties are out of the way, I would then go on to BAN the construction of ANY more religious sites of ANY type! We must end, once and for all, this monumental sham where all these SHAMans pass themselves off as striving to “help” us mere humans while spending untold billions constructing “Wonders of the World” class monuments to their own arrogant delusions.

Furthermore, all the existing “houses of worship” should be converted to treatment centers for the mentally ill (those who would come there on their own anyway). Lord knows they need all the help we can give them, and the cash they always bring with them for donations could be used to pay the mental health professionals hired to replace all those false “father” and “mother” figures that used to “lord it” over them while filling their heads with nonsense.

Damn! These changes would make for one hell of a start on correcting the social irregularities that ail us. In fact, they may well help to solve our economic woes as well, since there’ll be no more single mothers on welfare and with all the mental help professionals we’d be hiring. And fear not, for if these steps prove to be insufficient, I’ve got plenty more changes we can get to work on!

Think I’m crazy? Well imagine how I feel, having been surrounded by people I think are crazy my whole life. Or did you just think referring to these posts as “Pleas from the bowels of Hell on Earth” and this world as a “global asylum” were mere jokes on my part? Trust me, they weren’t!

But as to the ideas I’ve presented here, I’ll just say that they’re an exaggerated (and, I hope, humorous) mix of things I threw together just to make a point. If you want to know what I REALLY think, then you’ll just have to choose from the stuff I’ve already written for the Major Rants and Tolerance… Not! volumes of this blog.

Those of you who are STILL determined to deny your fellow citizens their rights REALLY ought to take a moment to consider the philosophical end of the path you’ve chosen:

“In Germany, they first came for the gypsies, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a gypsy. Then they came for the Bolsheviks, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Bolshevik. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics. I didn’t speak up then because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak up.”

– Martin Niemoller, A Lutheran Pastor arrested by the Gestapo in 1937

“Any alleged ‘right’ of one man, which necessitates the violation of the rights of another, is not and cannot be a right.”

– Ayn Rand

I want ice water.

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38 thoughts on “So, We’re Voting On Rights Now?

  1. the only way to stay sane in this world is to be insane. I do like the idea of harder rules for marriages, people should at least have a history of being together for more than 1 year before hitching up. And well, about the churches, they would make great concert halls, they already got the acoustic for it. Love the quote from Martin Niemoller, always worth thinking about.


    • Well hell, success must be right around the corner for me then, since I’m getting nuttier by the day! The churches would make great concert halls, but then what would we do with all the loonies? 😀

      You know, I’ve heard that quote so many times, but I just didn’t know the exact wording or who words they were. Fortunately, tech-paul included it in his Big Brother Big Business post! I actually meant to acknowledge that in this post. 😳


  2. Thanks, man, I needed a good rant. I spent the evening last night listening to the talking heads bitch about the mosque near ground zero, and wondered if I should blog about my feelings on the issue. Or maybe I should bitch about Fox News and how they’ve donated a million dollars to the Republican party while hiring a continuous stream of right-wing extremists to continue to whip and stir fury into the morons affixed to that network.

    Fortunately, I think I feel better now thanks to your rant. So instead I’m free to work on something else. Maybe I’ll start a cell phone application.


  3. “single mothers on welfare and with all the mental help professionals we’d be hiring.”

    So single motherhood is strictly a mental health issue? haha

    love the quote at the end.


  4. Any woman who chooses to be a single mother most definitely needs her head examined! Man I wish I said “quotable” things. My words are more apt to be used to justify my involuntary hospitalization! 😀


  5. Good post. And you got some good points, although I think that if getting married would get as complicated as that, then we will have no marriages ever, and add to that the possibility of not being a single mother, then we will start becoming another Japan. I think the problem lies in girls becoming mothers at the age of 20 or less. One out of 100 will be a good mother, but the other 99 are just going to be plain irresponsible, and will bring into this world another irresponsible child and so on. The decisions they will make will also be irresponsible ones, and so the chain will continue. Those are the ones you are talking about. Of course, there are a few “mature women” not so mature, but that you can’t do anything about… maybe they had a younger mom?


    • I’m not sure I get your reference to Japan, but I do believe that it should be much more difficult than it is to enter into legal, and moral, arrangements such as marriage. Off hand, I can’t think of any girls from my background that didn’t have at least one child already by the age of twenty. “Babies making babies” is not a heritage where you find great wisdom being passed from generation to generation, which is why most people born into that world are never able to leave it.

      My ex-wife and I actually used to the fact that this was so common, by faking her pregnancy, to get a judge’s permission for me to marry at the age of seventeen. It was only a twist of fate, health-wise, that prevented her from actually becoming pregnant until she was twenty-one. And I think our children have benefited from the few years of additional maturity we had when they were born. But I’d be lying if I said that the delay was intentional on our part.


  6. What is marriage? It is the combination of religion and state. It confers legal status recognized by government. I believe the two things should be separate. Leave “marriage” to religious interpretation and “civil unions” to government recognition.

    On the religious side, that means one church may do it for persons of the same sex while another church won’t. That is freedom of religion.

    On the government side, legal status must be offered equally to everyone, otherwise I feel that violates the Constitution.

    “Marriage” and “civil unions” should be two completely separate things.

    The thing about the “ground zero” mosque: I find it odd how some who constantly wave the flag are suddenly so eager to ignore the constitutional rights of others based on their feelings. We have the rule of law except during times when we feel it should be ignored. That’s the way it is supposed to work, right?


    • Well, considering that I think of religious thinking as being insane, I guess I’d have to advocate the complete abolishment of marriage were the types of unions to be separated as you suggest they should be. After all, the protection of potential offspring is the only logical justification for recognition of the union by the society at large.

      It really pisses me off to see how casually the so-called “conservatives” will toss aside their long-proclaimed “strict-constitutionalist” principles when they can gain political points by doing so!


  7. Bravo Mak. You’re just great when you rant. And even though you sound like an anti-democrat, I still agree with your piece. It really seemed this issue tripped Obama ha?


    • Thanks poch. I’m not anti-democrat at all, though I don’t ally myself with any of the available parties. What I am is anti-irrational. I cast my votes, always, for the individual and NOT the party! As far as I’m concerned, the Democrats and Republicans represent the two sides of a single UGLY coin. Neither party deserves allegiance from anyone.


      • What you said right here, I totally and unabashedly concur. Sorry it’s taken me so long to get to your rant (my e-mail inbox was seriously crazy and still is) but I love your points.

        The whole gay marriage and 9/11 Mosque (because that’s what it’s now called in the media) made me remember something my Granny told me when I was younger: people are in fear of what they don’t know. If some people actually tried to read up on what the Islam religion is and how the 9/11 attackers were pretty much their own nutty selves that had nothing to do with what Islam stands for, there wouldn’t be so much hoopla.

        What happened in 2001 was horrible, sad, and very, very unfortunate. However, we can’t keep punishing a single group for the actions of others. How many White men got arrested or harassed after the Oklahoma City bombings? Two White guys did that.

        (And so off-topic, working on my settings! I was wondering why I had that ugly face on other blogs!)


        • Don’t feel bad about finding it hard to keep up. My Inbox currently has 2666 unread emails, damn near all of which are new post notifications from the blogs I like. And the number jumps up dramatically every time I take a break!

          I don’t do much in the way of rants any more because banging my head against the wall gives me such a headache (:roll:), but responses like yours (and the others here as well) eases the pain so much.

          Believe it or not, this blog’s primary purpose is (was?) to present a more rational philosophical perspective on the issues of our lives. In fact, rants like this were about the only thing I posted when I first started. If you’re ever in the mood, and have the time, you can get a good idea of what I did by checking out my Contents page.


  8. SHAMans. Love it!

    As for insanity vs normality — I’m always left wondering what’s “normal,” who gets to decide, and who put the deciders in charge in the first place?


    • Ha Ha! You said “deciders.” GWB would love you! 😆

      But all kidding aside, you’re absolutely right. So many of us seemed to have stopped short, in evolutionary terms, of being able to put aside our primitive fears of the unknown, and in developing the analytical skills needed to decide what is truly in their best interests.


  9. After looking at a map on Google earth of where the mosque is located, I honestly wouldn’t call that ‘close’ to ground zero at all. In fact you cant even see it from the site either. I mean really guys? This is why we cant have nice things.

    At this point, no matter the stance or the outcome, I would worry more for those who would use the center after its completion. Because they stand to get injured when some nut decides to take matters into their own hands.


    • Good point, but my gut tells me that the nuts would raise hell no matter where it was being built! It’s really funny to me that, with all the money and power that the conservatives who’re pushing this issue have at their disposal, they could easily have pushed through some legislation making it illegal to build anything within a set perimeter but a memorial to the victims of 9/11. But then again, it IS “The World Trade Center” and doing that would interfere with their TRUE ambitions!


      • Funny, isn’t it. Until this flap, the only concern was what would be built inside the perimeter of the World Trade Center. If there’s a movable perimeter in play, I suggest we just include the whole country right now and get it over with. After all, America was the target and we all suffered some kind of trauma from the event.


        • I love how you think on such a grand scale! But I’ll go you one further. We need to both deliver a message that makes our intent to protect ourselves very clear, and to allow for our “disentanglement” from the hostile areas abroad that we find ourselves mired down in. I’d say that this dialog exchange from the movie Aliens describes what we need to do rather well:

          Hudson: Let’s just bug out and call it even, OK? What are we talking about this for?
          Ripley: I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
          Hudson: Fuckin’ A…
          Burke: Ho-ho-hold on, hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.
          Ripley: They can *bill* me.


  10. Hey all you nice people! Sorry it’s taking so long to respond to your comments, but I was up all night and had to get some sleep. Unfortunately, events have conspired to cut that short so that I can deal with some mid-level issues.

    I really appreciate the comments, and I promise to try very hard to respond to them ASAP. 😀


  11. Woohoo! That was brilliant! Brilliant I say (do you see me over here “CHEERING” with my pom-poms?). Woohoo!

    My favorite was the idea of not allowing any more religious building to be built! OH MY GOODNESS what a great idea! And that goes for ALL of them – Catholic, Jewish, Muslim…whatever! Instead, we should build more school…

    Full disclosure:

    My dear friend Cesar Murillo died on September 11 — he worked for Cantor Fitzgerald and died in the twin towers. Yup, had to mention that first. In honor of him of course. And although I believe in the freedom of Muslims or anyone else to build whatever they want, wherever they want and will support it, I can’t lie and say it doesn’t tinge the heart some. And maybe NOT for the reasons people think.

    My problem is not in Muslims building anything at all, it’s that we still haven’t rebuilt anything at all there – at Ground Zero. There’s nothing — it’s like it’s still “the place where the planes hit the twin towers” — instead of a memorial or a new building — a new life — it’s still yukky energy. Every time I hear a story about “Ground Zero” I want to cringe — I want to scream –I cry. When are we going to get to a point where we can stop thinking entirely of the tragedy and instead see new life — see what has sprung from hatred and pain?

    So, for me, my only resistance in even discussing the Muslim Community Center, is because… well, I’m still bleeding about the death of my friend. And I just don’t get why we haven’t done something about Ground Zero itself yet? Why is it taking so long to move forward construction-wise down there?

    I bet if we had already built the new buildings and life was moving along, this Community Center wouldn’t be such an issue — goodness, it not even AT Ground Zero.

    But, we’re human, and we need some sort of closure even if it is superficial closure. If Ground Zero was a place where we could be proud of what we’d gotten through, instead of what was done to us, we’d be stronger as a country and we’d probably stop hating all Muslims for what one small extreme group perpatrated. (Uhm, can’t spell that word – I’m not saying it right — sorry my emotions are getting to me).

    I have faith though. I love my country — Rah! Rah! U.S. I continue to have faith in US. We’ve been through worse and we always come out shining.

    ….thanks for letting me Vent Izzak!



    • I can’t even begin to tell you how much your comment means to me. I have to admit that I feared my post would only serve to piss off a lot of people, what with my anti-marriage and anti-religious ravings. But I was so enraged when I wrote it, that I just didn’t care. It’s so good to know that I’m not such a “Stranger in a Strange Land” after all!

      I absolutely agree with everything you’ve said about “ground zero” and you have all my sympathies on the loss of your friend. I didn’t know anyone directly who died in the tragedy, but I know a few who did. My experience of 9/11 was viewing it on TV in the day-room of a locked psychiatric ward at a VA hospital where I was being treated for a serious downturn in my treatment for depression. Strangely enough, that event was what caused that to be my last time on a psychiatric ward. It’s hard to put into words, and it’s not like the experience “cured” me or anything, but it did help to restore a bit of the “hardness” against the tragedies of the world that I had lost.

      I’m also a die-hard lover of my country, or at least of what I was taught to believe my country represents. I think it’s such a shame that we’ve allowed this “wound” on our landscape to remain for so long. The other two sites have been dealt with, allowing the people there to move on. I can only speculate that there are those, as in the current case, who see an advantage in allowing it to fester in the eyes of the body politic. They are the ones who deserve our outrage!


  12. ARRRGGGGGHHHHH . . . (bad nasty words) .

    It so pisses me off when the morons of this country try to justify their bastardization of the Constitution in a blatant attempt to further their hatred of anything they are too stupid to understand. The Palins, the Becks, the Limbaughs, the Gingriches, the Angles . . . all have one thing in mind: subvert this country until it’s back to living in caves.

    They don’t, and never will, understand what the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are really about. They have a constricted box they live in and want everybody else to join them, so they lie and spread their sick-twisted brand of hate every chance they get, and they do it often enough people actually believe they’re trying to do good. When you substitute hate for love, we all lose.


    • And what really bothers me is those same people, if we’re ever attacked agin, will be screaming for Obama’s head, when it’s their hate filled rhetoric the terrorists are feeding off of to build their ranks of America-hating terrorists. All they have to do is stick the speeches of the pundits in front of their cadre of followers, who are just as stupid and ignorant as the the followers of the becks, palins, limbaughs, etc..

      So imagine the outcry for Obama’s head should we veer be attacked again from those same pundits, when it’s their own words driving people to terrorism. Hell, all the terrorists have to do is say America is at war with Islam, drop all the hate filled speeches by so-called American in front of them, and their ranks will swell. Just plain ignorant.


      • I agree with your assessment and I share your outrage, but what pisses me off the most is that their actions are motivated only by the most short-sighted thinking possible – political expediency! I wonder if they ever even consider the kind of country they’re helping to create – the country they’re trying to inherit – and just how impossible that country would actually be to rule over? I don’t think so. I think that they’re so caught up in their dreams of “manifest destiny” that they’re incapable of envisioning the reality of the “destiny” they’re working so hard to realize! 😡


  13. Hey guys. Still tied up with other crap, so all I only have time to share a couple of links. The first is from The Atlasphere and is about the “jingoistic rabble-rouser” roles being played by Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in the “ground-zero mosque” controversy:

    The Former House Speaker Knows a ‘Stealth Jihadi’ When He Sees One :: The Atlasphere

    The second is to a post I did back in November of 2008 on my thoughts about Gay Rights and Marriage:

    Tolerance… Not! Gays and Marriage

    Thanks again everyone. I’ll get back for responses to your individual comments as soon as I can.


  14. great post, IzaakMak

    Following the kerfuffle about building a mosque near the site of ‘ground’ zero’ from the U.K. one would be left with the impression that no Muslims were killed by the attack on the twin towers on 9/11 and that no muslims were amongst the ‘first responder’ that rushed to do what they could to help those in the twin towers when the terrorists attacked.

    To condemn all muslims because of the act of a few terrorists is nonsensical – it would be akin to condemning all catholics for the atrocities committed by the IRA in Northern Ireland.

    I’m sorry if what I’m about to say offends anyone, but to a European the intellectual development of many american adults often appears to have been arrested at the age of an 11 yr old child !!!


    • I can’t speak for anyone else Duncan, but you most certainly have NOT offended me! I have stated many times on this blog how alarmed I am that the philosophical evolution of our species seems to have been arrested, or worse, begun a reversal towards a much darker outlook. I don’t know if you can understand this as a person who wasn’t raised here, but I’m more disappointed than I can say that the America I was taught to believe would be the leader of the push into the bright future of human development, has actually turned out to be anything but. 😐

      On a lighter note, check out this image I ran across that backs up your last statement:


  15. Sadly, the Constitution protects the Becks, the Palins, and the Limbaughs. Apparently they are so busy wrapping themselves in it, they don’t have time to read it.

    Carmen raises a good point about healing the wound at Ground Zero. I was so pleased with the original plans for the original building, the one that was to be 1776 feet high, etc. Then that was scotched for some reason and some other plans proposed and I don’t know where things stand now. There’s probably some argument going on about whether the tower(s) should include a chapel …


    • Hell, if it wasn’t for the SHAMans and others whining about symbolism designed to appease the “spirits” (and strengthen their power base), the new center would’ve been built and in use by now! I like the “17776 feet high” bit. If we really want to honor the dead, then the new site should be a testament to the freedoms for which we were attacked!


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